Socrates was an invention of Plato. Homer's Iliad is obviously fiction. I find it amusing that a fool like Steve Noble, who knows absolutely nothing about his holy book, who wrote it, when they wrote it, where they wrote it, why they wrote it or even what it really says in its original languages calling someone else a fool. You believe in magic and magical beings Steve. Look in the mirror if you want to see a fool buddy. That vacant stare you see is a dead giveaway.