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University of Destruction?

Posted on Saturday, May 16th, 2009 at 10:11am by SteveNoble

Surveys show that nearly 75% of church-going kids walk away from their faith after college.  Who is to blame?  Parents?  Professors?  The Church?

Is there really an anti-Christian bias on campus?  Maybe we are just doing a really bad job at preparing our kids for life on their own.  Whatever the cause, the problem is REAL.

I discussed this topic today with my special guest, David Wheaton, host of the syndicated radio program The Christian Worldview and author of University of Destruction.  You can check out davids website and get the book by clicking here.

What do you think???

What is wrong with college

What is wrong with college professors telling students to question the tenets of religion? Students go to college to learn how to think critically. Why should they not think critically about religion? I don't expect any fundies to answer these questions because any answer just reveals that Christianity is just another word for fascism.

boris's comment

Hi Boris
I have read everything that Bart Ehrman has written along with Dawkins, Hitchens, Talrico,etc. I believe in asking questions and you are correct. As a Christian, I believe in reading and preparing myself to give a reason for the hope that I have. However, it is extremely important to realize that the authors that I have just mentioned are just as biased in their way of thinking that you seem to think Christians are. I would be happy to have a dialogue with you on this subject. However, ad hominem attacks are the last refuge of the insecure. I odn't do those.
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Dee, You don't need to read

Dee, You don't need to read what critics of the Bible or Christianity write. The Bible is absurd enough all by itself to warrant disbelief.

Boris, I am 51 years old

Boris,
I am 51 years old and have worked in science my whole career.
I worked at NC State University most of my career.
Either you believe or not. I believe faith is a gift.
You obviously don't have it, yet.
I attended a Christian College. One of my professors still tried to "make" the miracles of the Old Testament believeable by giving a logical explanation. That confused me. I still believed it happened the way it says in the Bible. God is almighty. He can make it happen. I have personally seen it over and over again.I noticed that the kids who mocked the evangelists were cynnical, unhappy people who were insecure in who they were. They also judging from their age, had not experienced much of life's real trials. Faith is a gift. The Holy Bible is a gift. It holds the key to happiness that goes beyond all understanding. If you would like to experience this, pray for faith. Read the Bible without preconceived notions or doubts. TRY to believe. You will find how Almighty God has managed all that has happened for the good of his kingdom since the beginning of time. You are part of His kingdom, like it or not, and HE is in control. Quit fighting and enjoy the love he has for you.It is not too late to start. I will pray for you.
Willy

"Read the Bible without

"Read the Bible without preconceived notions or doubts. TRY to believe."

Boris says: I have read the Bible but I've also learned to doubt everything. Especially religion and religious claims. The Bible is absurd. None of the stories in it are historical because historical narratives don't contain word for word dialog between people speaking in complete sentences.

Boris, Boris, Boris...

Your rants are getting old, Boris...and absurdity is found in the mind of the fool. The Bible is beyond mere historical record, Boris - that's the point. You can't see it for the Truth is spiritually discerned. Without the Holy Spirit, its just gibberish...your continued diatribes and old arguments are proof of that.

Boris -- some verses for you to think about

If there is a God who made the universe and everything in it, then any of the things you read in the Bible including raising Jesus from the dead would be mere child's play by comparison. You take the position that Jesus (and presumably God) does not exist and then dismiss the Bible.
You then fail to acknowledge the faith necessary for your 'truth' claims.

There is virtually nothing in life that is certain, but there is evidence. You would say that you don't have any or certainly not enough, but God didn't say that you would find Him by examining the evidence and coming to an intellectual conclusion. He said that you would find Him if you diligently sought Him.

Deut 4:29 - if from there you seek the LORD your God, you will find him if you look for him with all your heart and with all your soul.

The Bible says that pride keeps man from seeking Him.

Psalm 103:4 - In his pride the wicked does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.

Rejecting He exists and then demanding proof to convince you otherwise is much akin to jumping off a cliff and demanding someone prove that gravity will make you fall to the ground and die. By the time you realize that it will, it will be too late.

Romans 14:11 - It is written: " 'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will confess to God.' "

If there is a God is a very

If there is a God is a very big if, too big to base one’s entire worldview on the way you have. I do not take or hold to any positions that I’m not willing to challenge or change. It is you who takes the position that God exists and therefore the Bible must be true. It is you who refuses to acknowledge that this superstition isn’t based on any evidence at all but is based on nothing but hearsay from OTHER PEOPLE. You fail to acknowledge that your entire belief system is based on adherence to man-made blind faith dogmas and doctrines.

Funny

This coming from the guy who uses other people's research and comments just as much as us "ignorant" Christians.

Sure nothing in life is

Sure nothing in life is certain and we do have evidence but we don’t have any evidence to support your religious claims or anyone else’s either. Your claim that people must seek God to find him is actually a demand to drink the Kool-Aid that turned you into an unthinking follower of OTHER PEOPLE.
Your claim that rejecting what any and all people claim about God is like jumping off a cliff is ridiculous. It is a typical logical fallacy known as a non-sequitur. Not believing in God would be more like walking around the cliff, not jumping off it. That’s what you did when you became a fundamentalist.

Here is a short essay on

Here is a short essay on pride and how it is the enemy of your evil and false religion:
It is not accidental that Christianity regards pride as a major sin. A man of self-esteem is an unlikely candidate for the master-slave relationship that Christianity offers him. A man lacking in self esteem, however, a man ridden with guilt and self-doubt, will frequently prefer the apparent security of Christianity over independence and find comfort in the thought that, for the price of total submissiveness, God will love and protect him.

In exchange for obedience, Christianity offers salvation, that there is something to be saved from. Christianity has nothing to offer a happy man living in a natural intelligible universe. If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action. In the eyes of Christianity, man is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can induce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can induce salvation.

The fundamental teaching of Jesus-the demand for conformity thus gives rise to a fundamental and viciously destructive teaching of Christianity: That some beliefs lie beyond the scope of criticism, and that to question them is sinful, or morally wrong. By Christianity declares itself and enemy of truth and of the faculty by which man arrives at truth-reason. – Robert Harbour

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