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Obama's Abortion Bailout!

Posted on Friday, Jan 30th, 2009 at 2:35pm by SteveNoble

Check out this new viral video from my buddy "Molotov" Mitchell!

Is he over the top?  A racist? Right on the money?  TELL US WHAT YOU THINK!!!

What do you think?

"Boris the Atheist" thinks Molotov's video is just a bunch of Christian Fundamentalist lies and propoganda... WHAT DO YOU THINK? Post your comment and then check back later..."Boris the Atheist" will likely come after you, too!

Boris' Flaw of Issue Equivalency

Boris the Amazing Atheist unfortunately takes the boring liberal approach of issue equivalency. If he can convince you that invading Iraq and Afghanistan was some sort of holy war against Islam (even though Bush repeatedly defends Islam as a "religion of peace" and has even hosted muslim events in the White House), then he can call it tax-subsidized murder, which is what Obama's reversal of the Mexico City Policy creates. If you actually believe that our troops are killing "innocent people" in some sort of a holy war, then what's the difference when we're talking about killing innocent babies? Unfortunately for Boris, nobody believes that our troops are murdering innocent people in a "holy war". At least, nobody but Michael Moore and Boris. Saddam Hussein and the Taliban weren't some peaceful Frenchmen who gave everyone turkeys for Christmas. No, the idea that we're overthrowing harmless governments and terrorizing cowering children just doesn't fly these days. The women of Afghanistan don't have to cower under black burkhas for fear of rape and torture any more. The Iraqis have free elections, shopping malls and they watch Comedy Central on 42" plasma TV's these days. "It's a new day!" But let's play "Boris' Advocate", shall we? He needs you to believe that none of this is true, that we ruined some beautiful oasis and killed a bunch of harmless, pot-smoking shepherds for oil or Jesus or whatever Boris believes. Even if that were true (which is PREPOSTEROUS), we didn't kill 50 MILLION shepherds, did we? No, Boris? Then how about just half of that, 25 million? Still too much? Okay, how about only 1 million? See, Boris doesn't want you to dig deeper, to look at the numbers. In America ALONE, we have killed 50 million babies since Roe V. Wade. So how many deaths will be on our heads now that we're going global? What's the going rate in Africa these days? How many abortions can you buy in Sudan for 10 million USD? Issue equivalency just doesn't hold water when you do a little research. There is no comparing a war, where less than 1 million people have died, to 50 million innocent babies that have been ripped from their mothers' wombs and stuffed into garbage bags. To do so reveals a darkness too deep to describe. And even if abortion only killed as many people as our foreign wars, would that justify it? And I know that Ford hasn't applied for a bailout, but they probably will (they're broke as a joke). I was clear when I said I don't even want my tax money going to Ford or GM, and I still don't. Finally, I'm quite proud to be easily identified as part of the pro-life "crowd". I wouldn't dream of hiding it! It's my badge of honor, my proof of sanity in this barbaric nation, where killing babies has become a way of life. It's the pro-aborts who should hide.

The Boris Attack on the video "Obama's Abortion Bailout"

This is Boris' original attack on the video...it got posted on the wrong blog page: Germany? They don't invade Germany? They don’t invade other countries (not anymore). Japan? They don’t invade other countries (they learned their lesson). Can America invade defenseless countries and murder innocent people? Yes we can! Is this how America will be remembered? Christians have been on the wrong side of every social issue for 2000 years so what makes this narrator think that history will some day look back and say they were right about this one issue? That won’t happen. But history will look back very dimly on America’s invasions of two defenseless nations and the dethroning of their governments. So what if my taxes are paying for abortions in other countries? I don’t really support this but my taxes have been going to murder innocent people and fight an illegal holy war against Islam disguised as a war for oil in Afghanistan and Iraq for several years now. And the amount of money wasted in just one day in these illegal and stupid wars is more money than this will be spent on funding abortions in other countries in a year. You can tell Mitchell has no case anyway because he uses tactics like saying “Planned Parenthood is killing YOUR children.” Ooh, let’s all hide our children from those killers at Planned Parenthood now. Everybody panic! Then he says that they’re going to go “kill babies in Africa.” Misidentifying abortion as murder is the kind of distortion of language that is so typical of fundamentalist Christians especially when they are evangelizing unsuspecting targets. So we know which crowd this guy is with from that, but we all knew anyway. People are practically in bread lines in America? Please. The only people with their hands out are the neo-con big wigs from Wall Street and Detroit. Mitchell doesn’t want to go into Ford or GM. This shows he’s a bit uninformed about that situation. Ford didn’t ask for a bailout. Only GM and Chrysler. I would suggest that this narrator put his efforts toward getting some help to the children who are already out of the womb but of whom about 30,000 will starve to death or die from a curable disease within the next 24 hours. No amount of bogus propaganda is going to change the abortion issue.

It doesn’t matter what

It doesn’t matter what reason one gives for these invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan they are still indefensible. This Mitchell person is complaining about how much of his tax dollars are being spent on abortions overseas. It’s a ludicrous compliant when compared to how much money Bush and his cronies looted from the national treasury to first pay hundreds of billions of dollars to “defense” (read offense) contractors to destroy the infrastructures of these countries and then hundreds of billions more to Dick Cheney’s company, Haliburton, to rebuild the infrastructure. It’s also bogus because we all have to pay for things we’d rather not. My critic accuses me of trying to convince readers of something that isn’t true but is clearly seen using this tactic himself. First of all abortion is not murder, babies are not killed, life is not taken. A POTENTIAL life is terminated and that’s NOT murder. The critic would like people to believe the Christian propaganda that no legal abortions were performed before Roe v Wade and that since then there has been some kind of holocaust where 50 million babies have been murdered. This is just not so. Abortion has been performed for thousands of years, and in every society that has been studied. It was legal in the United States from the time the earliest settlers arrived. At the time the Constitution was adopted, abortions before "quickening" were openly advertised and commonly performed. Gradually, with the rise of religious fundamentalism in the 1920’s some state began to pass laws against abortion. These were shown to be unconstitutional in the Roe v Wade case. This fact is never going to change unless we rewrite the Constitution. I really shouldn’t have to point out that Bible believing Christians have also been on the wrong side of the social sciences for over 1,500 years, actively promoting slavery, anti-Semitism, anti-feminism, homophobia, the torture and murder of women as witches, sexual repression, censorship, cultural prejudice, and the Inquisition, Crusades and other aggressive wars, and capital punishment for misdemeanors. History will show they’re on the wrong side of this one too. The more people like Mitchell rage and people like my critic publicly display their arrogance and ignorance of the issues, the more Christians marginalize themselves and paint themselves into a corner of their flat immovable earth.

I challenge this demented

I challenge this demented loud mouth liar Mitchell to come on here and refute my post. i extend this challenge to any Christian who thinks they want a piece of Boris also. Come to Papa.

Boris the Bore

Molotov Mitchell here. I seem to recall something about pearls and swine... Boris, I don't have time to deal with unreasonable atheists. There are too many agnostics out there who still have hope. I pray God opens your eyes before He shuts them for good.

Just as I thought. Too

Just as I thought. Too gutless to back up his insane anti-freedom rant. People who believe in magic and magical fairies, talking animals, demons, angels, Satan, Jesus have no business calling other people unreasonable or saying other people need their eyes opened. You stand refuted Molotov. And as everyone can see I did a beautiful job of it too. BTW you aren't going to convert any adult agnostics either and you know it.

Broken record & the Scriptures on Boris

If you care to take the time, a casual Google search will reveal that Boris posts the same comments on Christian blogs all over the net. He is a king of the "cut & paste", and for every ridiculous accusation he levels at Christianity there is a solid answer available if you take the time to look for it. From so-called "inaccuracies" in the Bible to his ridiculous and sophomoric scientific "truths", Boris is throwing up the same old stuff that God-haters have been throwing at us for centuries. Molotov is dead on - we need not throw our pearls to swine, but if Boris makes you nervous about your faith, YOU NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME IN SERIOUS STUDY. The answers to his accusations are readily available, if you choose to take the time to educate yourself. Boris has most Christians on that point - he is better prepared than most of us...but wrong, nevertheless. As for his motivation? Clearly he hates God and us Christians enough to spend an inordinate amount of his time railing against something he doesn't even think exists. In most cases, that makes him insane. Not in this case, though. Here is the "real deal" on Boris, his anger and his spite...straight from his Creators mouth: "This, then, is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved darkness rather than the light because their deeds were evil. For everyone who practices wicked things hates the light and avoids it, so that his deeds may not be exposed." John 3:19 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor. 2:14 For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing. 16 To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life. 2 Cor. 2:15 For God's wrath is revealed from heaven against all godlessness and unrighteousness of people who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth, since what can be known about God is evident among them, because God has shown it to them. From the creation of the world His invisible attributes, that is, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what He has made. As a result, people are without excuse. For though they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God or show gratitude. Instead, their thinking became nonsense, and their senseless minds were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man, birds, four-footed animals, and reptiles. Therefore God delivered them over in the cravings of their hearts to sexual impurity, so that their bodies were degraded among themselves. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. This is why God delivered them over to degrading passions. For even their females exchanged natural sexual intercourse for what is unnatural. The males in the same way also left natural sexual intercourse with females and were inflamed in their lust for one another. Males committed shameless acts with males and received in their own persons the appropriate penalty for their perversion. And because they did not think it worthwhile to have God in their knowledge, God delivered them over to a worthless mind to do what is morally wrong. They are filled with all unrighteousness, evil, greed, and wickedness. They are full of envy, murder, disputes, deceit, and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, arrogant, proud, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, and unmerciful. Although they know full well God's just sentence—that those who practice such things deserve to die — they not only do them, but even applaud others who practice them. - Romans 1:18-32 Case closed. Pray for Boris.

A Quick Note Concerning Adult Agnostics

Molotov here. Just a note to Boris' suggestion that adult agnostics don't convert. I'm living proof that they can and I've known numerous colleagues who share the same experience. Otherwise, Boris is correct. I am obviously outgunned, unable to challenge his superior intellect/copy-and-pasting ;) Of course I'm kidding. I'm too busy reaching people that are intellectually honest to spend any more time on hard-headed types. As for people reading this, keep in mind that Boris is not intellectually honest; he's an ideological hardliner. Unlike Boris, I'll abandon my faith if someone can prove to me that it's false. For years, I've heard arguments from atheists much smarter than Boris and found solid answers to every one. Many of those people no longer believe in atheism, but that's only because they chose to follow the truth wherever it led. Boris is unwilling to leave his faith, no matter what you present to him. That's why believers shouldn't cast their pearls before swine. There are plenty of people out there who genuinely seek the truth. Keep looking for those people and don't spend too much time on people like Boris. As I mentioned before, God will open his eyes or close them forever.

Great. The Bible is full of

Great. The Bible is full of defenses against critical thinking and free inquiry. Thanks for pointing some of these out. The truth really is that there are no good answers to my criticisms of the Bible. If there were so many people would not reject their faith upon reaching maturity, whenever that may be. The Bible has never been able to stand up to science or any scientific or historical criticisms. If it could then there wouldn't have been this long war on science by Bible believers. But we all know quite well that science, history and the Bible do not agree, they never have and they never will. Check this out: "As for his motivation? Clearly he hates God and us Christians enough to spend an inordinate amount of his time railing against something he doesn't even think exists." Then the poster of this claims I'm insane! Atheists don't hate God nor do they hate Christians. There is no God to hate and we say love the Christian hate the Christianity. My favorite defense against critical thinking in the Bible is "Only a fool says in his heart there is no God." I agree. The wise man shouts it at the top of his voice. THERE IS NO GOD. Just be good for the sake of it.

By the way Anonymous on Sat,

By the way Anonymous on Sat, 02/07/2009 - 12:08am said: If you care to take the time, a casual Google search will reveal that Boris posts the same comments on Christian blogs all over the net. Boris says: I challenge Anonymous to prove this claim. Find one thing I've posted here that has been posted or pasted somewhere else. Just one. Anyone. Go ahead. It won't be there because Anonymous is lying. I don't know about the rest of you, but once a person lies to me I don't believe anything else they say. He also said: He is a king of the "cut & paste", and for every ridiculous accusation he levels at Christianity there is a solid answer available if you take the time to look for it. Boris says: Here also I challenge any and all including and especially Anonymous to find any "solid answer available" to any criticism of the Bible I've made. I will gladly refute it and then mock and ridicule it and reveal the tortured logic and circular reasoning every single Christian argument is steeped in. Anonymous, until you do these things you've said nothing.

Pray for Boris. Please...

Pray for Boris. Please... by all means... pray for me. Every second that you spend praying for me will mean less that you are spouting your dogma at someone else. Since I do not believe that your god exists, as far as I am concerned you are praying to nothing and that only affects you in that it is a huge waste of time.

Boris the liar

Back a few posts, Boris said that he never "cuts & pastes" and dares me to find an example of his same ol' stuff posted elsewhere: Here you go, big guy! Here are the same 32 points you made on the C2A blog on Jan 18...BUT THEY APPEARED ON MICHAEL BROWN'S BLOG LAST YEAR ON SEPT. 23 AT 1:32AM! What did Boris say about people who lie??? Boris, Boris, Boris...pride goes before a fall, bro. 1) The Genesis 1 creation account conflicts with the order of events that are known to science. Genesis 1:1 The earth is created before light and stars, birds and whales before reptiles and insects, and flowering plants before any animals. From science, we know that the true order of events was just the opposite. 2) “And God said, Let there be light” (Genesis 1:3) and “. . .And the evening and the morning were the first day” (Genesis 1 :5), versus “And God said, ‘Let there be light in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night….’ “And God made two lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also… And the evening and morning were the fourth day” (Genesis 1 :14-19). These violates two major facts. Light cannot exist without a sun, and secondly, how can morning be distinguished from evening unless there is a sun and moon? Christians try to claim that god is the light he is referring to yet, considering the context it is quite obvious that the light god is speaking of is the light emitted by the sun. Just another feeble attempt at trying to rationalize such a MAJOR blunder. 3) God spends one-sixth of his entire creative effort (the second day) working on a solid firmament (Genesis 1:6-8). This strange structure, which God calls heaven, is intended to separate the higher waters from the lower waters. This firmament, if it existed, would have been quite an obstacle to our space program. 4) Plants are made on the third day (Genesis 1:11) before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes (Genesis 1:14-19). 5) “And God said, ‘Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind… ‘And the evening and the morning were the third day” (Genesis 1:11-13), versus “And God said, ‘Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life… And God created - great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly… And the evening and the morning were the fifth day” (Genesis 1:20-23). Genesis says that life existed first on the land as plants and later the seas teemed with living creatures. Geological science can prove that the sea teemed with animals and vegetable life long before vegetation and life appeared on land. 6) “And God said, ‘Let the water bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven” (Genesis 1:20). Birds did not emerge from water. 7) “And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, the beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. And God made…every thing that creepth upon the earth after his kind…” (Genesis 1:24-25). Science contends that reptiles were created long before mammals, not simultaneously. While reptiles existed in the Carboniferous Age, mammals did not appear until the close of the Reptilian Age. 8) “So God created man in his own image,…male and female created he them” (Genesis 1:27), and “the evening and the morning were the sixth day” (Genesis 1:31). If Adam was created on the 6th day, approximately 6,000 years ago (Bishop Usher’s calculations), then nobody lived before 4,000 B.C. Prehistoric men would be fictitious. By tracing the genealogy of Jesus back 77 generations to Adam, the third chapter of Luke also supports belief in a very young earth. If each man had lived approximately 100 years, then the world would be no more than 9,684 (7,700 + 1984) years old. If each of Jesus’ ancestors had lived to be 1,000 years old (an age not even reached by Methuselah), the earth would still be only 78,984 (77,000 + 1984) years old, according to creationists. 9) “And to every beast of the earth, and every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so” (Genesis 1:30). Carnivorous beasts and fowl do not eat green herbs, nor were all animals originally herbivores. Simply consider tapeworms, vampire bats, mosquitoes, barracudas, tigers, etc. 10) In Genesis 1, the entire creation takes 6 days (Genesis 1:31), at the end of which the earth and its living things are pretty much as they are today. But we know from modern science that the universe (including the earth and life on earth) evolved slowly over billions of years. 11) In Genesis 2:7 humans are created instantaneously from dust and breath, whereas they actually evolved over millions of years from simpler life forms. Science can in fact trace back human evolution CONCLUSIVELY 3 .2 million years. 12) God makes the animals (Genesis 2:18) and parades them before Adam to see if any would strike his fancy. But none seem to have what it takes to please him. After making the animals, God has Adam name them all. The naming of several million species must have kept Adam busy for a while, why Adam would still have to be living for we haven’t even discovered nor named all the species. Also consider the idea of every living creature being brought to the Middle East, that would have killed many animals due to climatic changes. 13) God curses the serpent, making him crawl on his belly and eat dust (Genesis 3:14). One wonders how he got around before — by hopping on his tail, perhaps? But snakes don’t eat dust, do they? 14) “There were giants in the earth in those days.” Genesis 6:4 But there is no archaeological evidence for the existence of these giants. Also there is a reference to the “Nephilim” being on the earth. Which is a term used for half angel, half human. Why is there no archaeological evidence for the existence of the Nephilim either? 15) Noah is told to make an ark that is 450 feet long (Genesis 6:14-15). The largest wooden ships ever built were just over 300 feet, and they required diagonal iron strapping for support. Even so, they leaked so badly that they had to be pumped constantly. Are we to believe that Noah, with no shipbuilding knowledge and no shipbuilding tradition to rely upon, was able to construct a wooden ship that was longer than any that has been built since? 16) Whether by twos or by sevens, Noah takes male and female representatives from each species of “every thing that creepeth upon the earth” (Genesis 7:8). Now this must have taken some time, along with expert knowledge of taxonomy, genetics, biogeography, and anatomy. How did Noah manage to collect the endemic species from the New World, Australia, Polynesia, and other remote regions entirely unknown to him? How, once he found them, did he transport them back to his Near Eastern home? How could he tell the male and female beetles (there are more than 500,000 species) apart? How did he know how to care for these new and unfamiliar animals? How did he find the space on the ark? How did he manage to find and care for the hundreds of thousands of parasitic species or the hundreds of thousands of plant species? (Plants are ignored in the Genesis account, but the animals wouldn’t last long if the plants died in the flood.) No, wait, don’t tell me, a miracle happened, millions of them. 17) All of the animals boarded the ark “in the selfsame day” (Genesis 7:13-14). Since there were several million species involved, they must have boarded at a rate of at least 100 per second. How did poor Noah and his family make sure that the correct number of each species entered through the door and then get them all settled into their proper living quarters so efficiently? I wish the airline companies could do as well! 18) The flood covered the highest mountain tops (Mount Everest?) with fifteen cubits to spare (Genesis 7:20). Where did all the water come from? Where did it all go? Why is there no evidence of such a massive flood in the geological record? 19) When the animals left the ark (Genesis 8:19), what would they have eaten? There would have been no plants after the ground had been submerged for nearly a year. What would the carnivores have eaten? Whatever prey they ate would have gone extinct.. And how did the New World primates or the Australian marsupials find there way back after the flood subsided? 20) Noah kills the “clean beasts” and burns their dead bodies for God (Genesis 8:20). According to Genesis 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all “clean” animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark. So why is it that we still have “clean” animals? 21) God is filled with remorse for having drowned his creatures in the flood. He even puts the rainbow in the sky so that whenever the animals see it they will remember God’s promise not to do it again (Genesis 9:13). But rainbows are caused by the nature of light, the refractive index of water, and the shape of raindrops. There were rainbows billions of years before humans existed. 22) “The whole earth was of one language” (Genesis 11:1). But this could not be true, since by this time (around 2400 BCE) there were already many languages, each unintelligible to the others. 23) (Genesis. 11:4) According to the Tower of Babel story, the many human languages were created instantaneously by God (Genesis 11:9) But actually the various languages evolved gradually over long periods of time. 24) (Genesis 14:14) Abram goes into pursuit looking for his captive relative in the city of Dan. The problem here is that the city of Dan did not exist until over 300 years after Moses died. How is it that Abram could enter the city of Dan, when the city did not even exist? 25) Jacob displays his (and God’s) knowledge of biology by having goats copulate while looking at streaked rods. The result is streaked baby goats (Genesis 30:37). The author of Genesis (God?) believed that genetic characteristics of the offspring are determined by what the parents see at the moment of conception. This is a laughable belief. Ask any animal husbandrist. 26) Camels don’t divide the hoof (Leviticus 11:4). This statement is completely moronic for every TEENAGER knows what a “camel toe” and how it used to describe a specific split. 27) The bible says that hares and conies are unclean because they “chew the cud” but do not part the hoof (Leviticus 11:5-6). But hares and coneys are not ruminants and they do not “chew the cud.” 28) Bats are birds to the biblical God (Leviticus 11:13-19 & Deuteronomy 14:11-18). 29) Some birds have four feet (Leviticus 11:20-21). 30) If there is a God, there is one thing we know for sure about him: He really likes insects (particularly beetles). There are more species of insects, by far, than all other species of life on earth. As JBS Haldane said, “he has an inordinate fondness for beetles.” Yet insects are said to have four legs in Leviticus 11:22-23. 31) Unicorns have never existed, yet they are said to in Deuteronomy 33:17. 32) Fiery serpents have NEVER existed yet Numbers 21:6 claims they do and TO THIS DAY STILL inhabit certain cities.

Anonymous you have copied a

Anonymous you have copied a list that I used before as an example. No one thinks I created that list myself. I have to respond to the same stupid cut and pasted Christian arguments over and over and over and over again. For example I often get the absurd 747 made from a tornado in a junk yard argument. So should I vary my response to this idiotic creationist argument when the stupid argument can be easily debunked by a few sentences I have in my files? None of the comments I have made on this blog, none of the criticisms of yours or anyone else posts can be found anywhere else and you know it. I just cut and pasted a list of living transitional fossils I used on Truth Talk Live last year onto a blog on Beliefnet on Lynn verse Sekulow. It's a list, not an argument. Your claim is that I use the same cut and pasted arguments over and over again and it's a lie. That makes you a liar. I expect that from Christians. No surprise here. By the way did you hear the show I did with him last Sept 17? I don't think he'll have the nerve to debate an atheist on the air again.

Just a note to Molotov:

Just a note to Molotov: Atheism is NOT a faith. It is a lack of faith. Unbelief is the natural position to take on anything until something has been proved. The existence of God hasn’t been proved to Molotov Mitchell, me or anyone else. God belief comes when people let other PEOPLE convince them there is a God and to have faith in this God. Molotov has listened to other PEOPLE and let them frighten him into believing the absurd and hoping for the impossible. I think that is pathetic in the 21rst century with all we now know about science and our past – a past that has nothing at all to do with the Bible’s fairyland description of it. Like Anonymous, Molotov claims to have all the answers for my criticisms yet we don’t get see even one of these from either of them. Instead they make ad hominem attacks and attack my integrity and character, which of course as anyone knows who has witnessed a debate, clearly shows they have no case and have already lost the debate. Finally, I am NOT trying to get anyone to stop believing in God. Too many Bible believing Christians have told me that God is absolutely necessary for people to be moral and if there was no God there would be nothing to stop them from becoming evil and doing harm to others. I would not want to see a Molotov Mitchell all of a sudden realize there is no God. No telling what he might do.

Nothing is much more

Nothing is much more pleasing than silencing ones critics and humiliating them while your at it. Is there anyone still reading this thread who thinks I did not give this blowhard Molotov Mitchell a well deserved intellectual smack down? This guy claimed that I was not intellectually honest. Yet he gets his ideas out of a book that says the Earth is flat and never moves and he'll argue and swear all day that it doesn't. He believes a story about corpses coming back to life and appearing to many people and he implies that I'm the one not being intellectually honest. He's not being intellectually anything. An 8 year old knows that stories with conversations in them are fiction because history writers don't record conversations nor could they have if they wanted to. Yet Molotov would tell an 8 year old he will burn in hell for not believing what he does including all the absurd stories in his boogy book. This is VERY bad intellectual training for any child. I don't buy the claim that Molotov ever an agnostic. He was brainwashed as a child into the Christian system of dogmatic superstitions. I think his claim of previous agnosticism is an outright lie told to smear unbelief.

Yeah, right...

The above comments came from the same guy that said he doesn't hate Christians... Yeah, right. Perhaps it is just God that he hates. Sad, isn't it?

Steve in your narrow minded

Steve in your narrow minded superstition based view of the world you cannot conceive of the fact that 2 billion people in this world believe in no deity. None of those people hate any Gods because they don't believe there are any Gods. I don't think there is a God but I'm absolutely positive the Christian God does not exist and Jesus Christ never existed. Do you think I would make such a claim if I wasn't sure about it?

WOW! Boris the ultimate authority (who needs 95% of historians!

WOW! I'm impressed. You have it all figured out, regardless of the fact that with few exceptions (such as Robert M. Price), virtually all scholars in the fields of biblical studies and history agree that Jesus was a Jewish teacher from Galilee who was regarded as a healer, was baptized by John the Baptist, was accused of sedition against the Roman Empire, and on the orders of Roman Governor Pontius Pilate was sentenced to death by crucifixion. You must be FAR smarter than I gave you credit for, Boris! Please forgive my ignorance of your brilliance! I can't imagine how you are making the vast majority of scholars feel with this "revelation" that they are all wrong and YOU are all right! I'm not sure what put you over the edge in drinking every glass of "purple juice" put out by the great God-deniers of history, but you seem to be gobbling it up pretty good...much to the dismay of the FACTS. Perhaps you should try spending some time with the growing number of molecular biologists who are actually honest enough to admit the need for "Intelligent Design" in the irreduceable complexity found all around us...especially in Darwin's "little black box" of the cell. If he were alive today I believe he would, unlike you, have the intellectual honesty to admit that his own conditions for eliminating his THEORY have been met over and over again. Perhaps like him, you look at the design in a Peacocks tail and it makes you "sick" because it too testifies to the existence of the Creator you so desperately want to deny. I wish I could understand what has driven you down this road, but I can't...the same way you can't accept the spiritual truths of the Bible because they are spiritually discerned...and because you don't have that set of glasses, you simply CAN'T see it. As I have said before, I pray for you often and will continue to do so. Au revoir, Boris.

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